CALLING ALL INVICTANS, KING'S GUARD AND ALL RP GUILDS!! READ!!
Ok. Well i had some ideas for King's Guard and Invicta about our little IC hate for each other.. Cyril being a villain and an IC enemy which allows all to kill him. However, to make this more orginized and planned i wished to speak with all Invictan and King's Guard leaders ((Officers that would like to attend)) to a OOC meeting in the saftey of our cozy safe zone, Old T.
This concerns the IC war with Cyril versus the entire Invicta and King's guard.. However i thought i'd like to give you my thoughts on how we can make this more RP based with a very nice IC reason and a little idea for when/where our battles would take place.
First off, let me tell you what Cyril is doing ICly and it'll explain why he attacks KG & Invicta..
Cyril wants to crush Invicta and King's Guard, and all guilds he sees as a threat so that he may somehow take leadership by force of all guilds, after defeating the each leader of each guild and becoming the leader of all of them.. He will unite the fallen guilds, Invicta, King's Guard, Dark Brotherhood, ect ect.. Into a single and most powerful faction under his leadership. He seeks to destroy each guild by cutting their resources off, taking out their leaders and officers, then rounding up all the minions and low ranking to forge a massive dark army named the "The Blood Circle" under a communist based government. By this, he will run a massive army and declare war on all of Hyborea ((Aquilolia, Cimmeria, and even Stygia and the black kingdoms.)) Basicly Cyril wants to rule the world and its people and tell everyone how they will live their lives and what they will become. Controling the mass population.
Although this is Cyril's overall goal in life.. Now he will fail, and never even crush any guilds but it will be a reason for why Invicta, KG, Dark Brotherhood((if they want to RP in this..)) and all other RP guilds who want to rp along with this. Now as for where this leads to PvP with Cyril and his cronnies and how we will cause Cyril to be a threat best taken seriously? Here's my idea.
Cyril on certain nights will cause each guild trouble by attempting to cut their source of power off. Example: Invicta are mercenaries, sellswords AND happen to be in poitain.. So, Invicta will be hired by the Poitain people, to stop Cyril from slaughtering / Blockading the merchants that carry food, supplies, clothing, and other goods to Poitain. Cyril demans that Poitain becomes a stronghold for Cyril's army/alliance and demands they stand down or they will starve to death by his blockade he sets up. If Invicta lets Cyril continue, Poitain will fall and Invicta will not get the supplies they receive from Poitain thus, Cyril would not only harm Poitain's people by the blockade but also Invicta which would overall weaken Invicta's troops allowing him to storm Invicta's stronghold in poitain.
F Y I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE!!!!!! NOTHING MORE!!!
Now as for when is it necessary to have PvP? On a day when Invictan is not busy for example: Every Friday after tesso party, IF Invicta is not busy afterwards.
Where?: In an area within Poitain where no NPC'S / Guards will get in the way. Or an area where many trees / surrondings are about so we have a very tactical layout to make PvP all the more intresting.
Will Cyril be alone fighting all the Invictans?! Lol?: Answer: Yes and maybe no. If i can ICLy hire some assassins / mercenaries to work for Cyril i could gather a large group or a small raid to combat against the Invicta. Thus: PvP will not be boring and not intresting / even, this way we can all enjoy a good war.
Now as all of you know i am indeed, a member of Tendrils of Fear who yes, are on good terms with Invicta as Vaslara knows people in Invicta. So when this war happens, DON'T ICLy or OOCly think: The enemy is ToF!!
That would be un-necessary and total BS. :P As not all ToF want to be enemies, so an IC reason for "why does Invicta see Cyril the only threat and not ToF his guild?".
Keeping other ToF members out of this IC and OOCly is necessary, but if any ToF want to join they can play "Undercover as a bandit or mercenary working for Cyril" or just pretend they are not their character but pretend / rp as a mercenary that cyril hired.
Each guild, who wishes Cyril to be an enemy and who wishes to participate in this and help me out will / MUST!! Contact me as this should be discussed together as a team so that we all can enjoy this RP and have it a Fun and enjoyable experiance as also a daily event so long as aoc lasts.
I wish to have these events so that Cyril can be one of Hyborea server's most Infamous and well known baddies.
Every week we would have a intresting PvP with a RP plot and also NOT fight when the event is over.. Keeping the PvP only on certain days so that there isn't a constant war((as i am sure no one wants to be ganked or a constant KoS 24/7.))
I will need ALL of your couperation and support and also need y'alls input, ideas, and an OK to this. Please leave a comment and send an ingame tell / also FOR ALL GUILD LEADERS WHO WISH to have a role in this: **Looking at Invicta, King's Guard and Dark Brotherhood** Leaders of any RP guilds.. Leave a comment also so that we may discuss this.
Thank you VERY much and i hope you will all think this as a great idea so that we may all create this as an common RP event. It will not only be fun in RP, but awesome way to PvP and have small or large wars.
The Dark Brotherhood is
The Dark Brotherhood is hardly 'fallen' and isn't really a guild per say :P It's virtually impossible to take control of it unless you kill their patron saint, the night mother, who is, as far as the brotherhood is concerned, an apparition, and the shadow itself. On that note, we don't get our supplies from anywhere, and simply do not care what happens to Hyboria as a whole. If Cyril rose to power within Hyboria, it would just make more business for us in the long run. Now getting some IC/OOC confusion out of the way
The Dark Brotherhood is a SECRET society. Sure, some of it's members mingle etc with the public, but their affiliation is otherwise unknown. Also, the leaders are kept secret ICly save for the voice who is known by a select few AS the voice OF the dark brotherhood. If he is slain, the night mother selects it's succesor. In essence, the only way to take control of the dark brotherhood is to kill ALL it's members permanently, and even then, the night mother would select the new hierarchy. Just thought to munch on.
That being said. If he
That being said. If he prayed to the night mother for the aid of the dark brotherhood, he would need a big bag of $$$ and an IC justification for knowing of the night mother. That shouldn't be too difficult. Now that being said. If my members ARE hired to fight friends, I'd ask OOCly that the friends disregard our guild tag and names alltogether, as IC, we'd be in cognito, and masked assailants. There would be no link back unless by some miracle one is captured, and the mark is found. Looking forward to seeing this unfold.
Ah
I heard you. Actually Azmith, we can prolly have an alliance.. The Dark Brotherhood can be an ally of Cyril's as i would need people to hire ICly to fight with Cyril.((of course Cyril has alot of $$$ and can buy his friendship with them Lol!))
Now when you said a fallen guild? I meant: The powerful guilds/clans/units whatever your guild is considered.. I meant when Cyril crushes your guild, which would THEN become a fallen guild.((a guild without a leader, allowing him to step up and take control of it.))
Now i hear the Dark Brotherhood lore and to be honest, I was looking for at least one alliance to befriend so that i could buy a team of assassins thus, Cyril has fighters at his back. So that would work well, what do you think? ;)
Heh... Alliance is a naughty
Heh... Alliance is a naughty word in our dictionary ;) But I'm sure something can be worked out :)
Excellent xD hehe
Now, when we have Invicta, King's Guard leader's responces in this..
((as we still need their say XD))
Oh btw Azmith
Azmith, you're the Dark Brotherhood guild leader correct?
If so after i get Invicta's and King's Guard leaders to respond and if they agree.. i will be speaking with them in game in a OOC meeting in Old T and would like you to be there :)
Sunday-thursday nights I
Sunday-thursday nights I work 11PM-7AM. So it'd be best to save it for friday or something if you NEED me there :P Though forward a log to psycho_bob76@hotmail.com and I'll give all my input.
Finally Planning Something, eh?
Haha, this would be fun...but you do know that Invicta's not the only guild/clan that's based in Poitain right? As far as I know, KG is Poitain distribution as well... :P Haha...and not to mention our Akkadians....
Cyril really didn't do anything remotely threatning to our perspective, and he is viewed more or less as some rude Aquilonian who has it against Invicta.....If the blockade suceeds in any way, that MIGHT cause some alarm to us...but til then it really doesn't make sense for us to step in...(unless he hires us)
Anyways, I'd rather be on my alt with Cyril, lol....
Hire you? Heh... I think
Hire you? Heh... I think it's time to seperate the mercs from the sins :P Cutting grass is no way to make a living ;)
>> What you have a bone to
>> What you have a bone to pick? Bleh, I'll need to challenge you to a duel one of these days.....
I'm not an officer of
I'm not an officer of Invicta, IC about the only duty of note they give me is allowing me to protect Kemena, for a couple reasons :p . Wulf is likely a career ranker as long as he stays in Invicta.
I'm not quite as simplistic in my outlooks, OOC but I'm confused.
Looking at your IC actions thus far.
You killed a guest in Tesso last week, attacked an officer of the guild (with your minions) and ran off.
You threatened Kemena in OT and insulted Tattyana.
You assaulted Niladri.
Then you sued for peace, hiding behind the House of Vaslara, which Aurelius allowed fairly generously considering your IC actions.
Now you want to start your one man war against an entire mercenary company again? And not just them but the King's Guard?
IC'ly you're on the edge already: some of us want you dead for the above crimes and their personal ramifications, and Aurelius has only limited control over us, some more than others (Wulf is on a pretty short leash atm but there are plenty of others who aren't and are ready to hunt you down already). Kemena is probably the most beloved figure in Invicta, in and outside of guild, so its going to earn at least distaste for you in a lot of quarters. Niladri is 2nd in command of a until with a protective commander and some pissed off troops, without mentioning her other ties. As an initial impression, you did get yourself noticed and generated some animosity.
From an OOC perspective, I don't mean to rain on your parade, but you're all over the map with this in terms of announcing your rather inconsistent intentions. I thought your threats on Kemena were fun but you showed a fundamental lack of knowledge of your opponent which kind of undermines most of what your demands were about: Aurelius isn't a Lord per say but a leader. He could submit to your demands, hand over leadership of Invicta to you and in 2 days you'd own a ghost town. The foundation is money,the reputation of the commander and personal loyalties within the organization, not any feudal obligations: you possibly have 1 of the 3 in money which might keep some people around as long as the coin lasts. I guess the way I look at it is the greatest villains become who they are through their actions over time: you don't get on the FBI top 10 most wanted list over night unless you do something pretty substantial and so far, Cyril doesn't have the resources/abilty to do that, so its something that if you want to pursue, you'll have to evolve into. And remember that the RP most of us indulge in is interactive: people aren't always going to react the way you expect or want them to because they aren't going to see circumstances in the same light as you.
Again this is not coming from an officer, just a Cimmerian in a steel suit who spends a lot of time standing behind Kemena and looking over her shoulder
Wulfran
Guardian of Invicta
"To defend, this is the Pact, and when life scorned and damage done, to avenge: this is the Pact" ~ Blue Oyster Cult
Nice post Wulf.
Nice post Wulf. Basically... a front war on these two factions will fail. Cyril really needs to take some time to plot and think this through... What would cripple either faction? What would cause turmoil and demoralization within said ranks? I already know the answer to both of these, but I'm not spilling the beans :) It's not my place, or Azmith's to fuel a tyrant with advice and direction; only to carry out specific blows. That being said, be VERY careful what you ask of us in regards to all this Cyril. Some requests have SEVERE ramifications... especially if one of the voice's friends from either faction get to the voice and persuade his loyalties. (Forgive my terrible spelling)
OOC-Wulfran pretty much
OOC-
Wulfran pretty much summed up my thoughts as well. I'm an officer in King's Guard , and I really have no clue what you are going on about. Like Wulf puts it, you've shown up and pretty much delcared yourself to be the server bad guy with nothing to back it up save a few minor things.
Now I'm all for having a good RP server bad guy, but to be brutally honest, in my eyes (as well as other KG folks) you are just a petty criminal at this point.
That being said -- don't give up or get mad, get bad. Very bad. And give us a real bad guy. I am looking forward to this if you can pull it off in true RP fashion and don't go hire the greifing PvP folks to wage your war against us or Invicta. Do that and you won't have a leg to stand on.
And I'm just an officer in KG, not the leader, and these are just my views.
Well said Wulf. There is
Well said Wulf. There is nothing more I can add to what you said.
Which reminds me, most best
Which reminds me, most best of villains usually have brains along with brawn......Cyril has bad manner and tendancy for violence....
Why not try something creative? Like spreading false rumors or some sort that would actually turn KG and Invicta against each other? Manipulation is just as evil as random violence. ;P
HEY!
I don't care, he's not invited to the wedding!
((Damn minions stealing my stam and mana, otherwise I coulda had 'em!))
One other thing to think
One other thing to think about.... You being a member of ToF and asking for everyone to not hold it against Vas and ToF. I really don't see how that's gonna fly. As a member of a guild, you represent that guild. What you do IC'ly will reflect on Vas and ToF as a whole. I can't very well go around and gank lowbies as Argan because I put up a post saying I'm gonna do it and KG and Challa are not to be blamed. It just won't fly. IC'ly we will look on you as an uncontrolled agent of ToF, and go to Vas to handle you. if she doesn't, she and ToF will be judged based on your IC actions.
Suggestion.. drop from ToF and form your own private guild name to do this under, with a really cool bad guy name.
I am an officer of King's
I am an officer of King's Guard and agree with Argan... If you go through with your plan and are still a part of ToF, people will automatically think the whole guild is behind you... I think you should make your own guild and maybe get little henchmen to support you. That would be really cool!
Your idea sounds great and I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out! :D
I disagree with this
I disagree with this notion. Had he remained annonymous, and did not involve ToF or Vaslara, his guild tag floating over his head would and SHOULD be ignored ICly. It would be like a member of the brotherhood going to beat up someone on behalf of someone else. ICly, there is no real way to establish that the assailant is IN the brotherhood, unless the agent was silly enough to announce it(And thus comprimise the brotherhood, and end up a target themselves). In his case, however, he did hide behind Vaslara and ToF IC? So it is public IC knowlege? I'm not totally sure how it all went down, but a floating guild tag should have no relevance on consequence if the toon did not ICly announce their affiliation. You want to be a bad guy? Kidnap Challa, make it look like Invicta did it, then have her escape... And by that I mean ICly give the order to let her go, but don't let her know it was planned as such. That's what I'd do in your shoes anyway. I'm sure that would cause a stir :P
True enough Azmith, we
True enough Azmith, we normally don't know who is when guild when we interact with them, but, he's already made himself known publicly IC, and as pointed out by Wulf,
Then you sued for peace, hiding behind the House of Vaslara, which Aurelius allowed fairly generously considering your IC actions.
so in this case, he's already publicly known as being in ToF.
Otherwise, yes, I'd agree with y ou IC'ly. As long as it is indeed RP. Hiding behind a guild to grief is another (which is NOT what i see this guy doing).
And yes, kidnap Challa and woe be unto you. (whoever)
ditto.
ditto.
Keep yer sights offa my
Keep yer sights offa my woman! *grins*
Wouldn't be Azmith's sights
Wouldn't be Azmith's sights :P Would be the client's.. On that note, she'd escape as per planned :P But since it doesn't look like this is going to happen, I'll just keep dreaming :) But it's how I would turn KG against Invicta if I were Cyril.
I don't read guild tags
I agree with Azmith and don't read guild tags. How are people to know?
And just from the other perspective... say I had Lara 'leave' Invicta momentarily to perform a private operation and put her in a one person guild called 'Kinky Farm Girl', would people think she wasn't acting for Invicta just cause of the lack of tag? Would they know of her bedroom antics because of the tag? How much knowledge does the tag convey...
Eh... confusing. :^p And I almost want to start that guild now lol.
Well, we don't "know" unless
Well, we don't "know" unless the guild is known to display certain colors or items, etc. King''s Guard is a crest that identifies us, I belive Invicta has an Emblem of some sorts with a WHite Stallion? Other guilds have ertain articles of clothing, etc that identifies them as being in said guilds.
So yeah, while we ignore guild names, we don't ignore the fact they are in fact in them.
And as to you leaving Invicta and starting your own guild? I hear the (Wet Wanton Wenches) are recruiting.. *winks*
I'll throw this up so
I'll throw this up so everyone is aware, but it's a minor detail. The ONLY distinguishing mark/emblem that the dark brotherhood enlists is a scar on their left hand, at the crook of the thumb and pointer finger in the shape of a crescent moon. THIS is hidden by a glove, and is OOC knowlege for you people, as any passer by who was not previously informed of it's meaning would just dismiss it as a weird tat. But we ALL have it, and none outside the brotherhood have been made aware of this yet, save for Anrielle and the renegade Kelt, who is still being hunted :)
I'm not really
I'm not really leaving Invicta btw. I just find the idea of that guild name amusing.
I dunno... Lara usually hides her emblem, but because of her profile yeah everyone knows she's in Invicta. That's one reason I think starting KFG for a week would be an interesting experiment.... would people still think she was acting for them if she didn't have the tag? Though I'm not leaving Invicta. :^P
Of course not. The "Kinky"
Of course not. The "Kinky" guild name you said just brought that guild name to mind. :P
ahh so..
Cyril and Brig already had a.......conversation.. She had tracked him down with a friend after he had attacked her in the Armsman.and words were exchanged.. which Brig took with a grain of salt.. Being that she doubted his threats. But, this is up to the Commander to decide.
and as to how people would know his guild affiliation. People are ALAWYS saying . " I See you wear the colors of...'" and this would undoubtedly be no different unless he RPs that he wears no distinguishing colors... crests or so on.
People are ALWYS saying . "
People are ALWYS saying . " I See you wear the colors of...'" and this would undoubtedly be no different unless he RPs that he wears no distinguishing colors... crests or so on."
That ticks me off tbh. I simply don't want to RP in EVERY single conversation "You do not see any obvious markings. "
Well I see this as what your
Well I see this as what your guild is. King's Gaurd is a very public unit. Ditto for Invicta. The Dark brotherhood is not. I can see that working for Azmith and his bunch, but for KG, a military style organization, yes, you will see it on us at all times. I would think with Invicta's structure, it would be the same. But I can see your point. Honestly, I always intorduce myself for the first time to someone as Argan, High Priest (or am I now Chaplin boss lady?) of the King's Guard" from that point on, that person knows me as a member of KG. You, are as you said well known as being in Invicta, so it's easy to assume you would display the White Horse of such. I suppose it boils down to which guilds do display something and which don't. As RP'ers we just assume you are displaying your guilds "colors/badge/party hat/purple Underoos". As a RP'er I do just that unless I know ahead that your guild does not "fly the colors" so to speak.
I guess that's my que to
I guess that's my que to make it publicly known we do not :P You know... for as many new members as we've gotten over the past two weeks, you'd think TDB would have a guild advert. on the main forums heh... I'm such a procrastinator
That's fair enough and I
That's fair enough and I agree with you. I just don't tend to do it as a rule. Some people say every guild displays obvious tags, and that's what I don't agree with.
But... I feel like we're debating nothing, cause most of the examples given here are well known as members of their guilds.
That's why when people ask
That's why when people ask what Azmith's name is, he tells them Davon, a simple Aquilonian gem cutter looking to sell his wares. bahahaha
No, his name is Sheet-Head,
No, his name is Sheet-Head, or that creepy stalker who looks in on Anna and Lara.
Anna? Our Anna of KG? You
Anna? Our Anna of KG? You after her now as well?
Haha no, Annalea of TDB.
Haha no, Annalea of TDB.
Ahh.. gotcha.
Ahh.. gotcha.
I see it somewhat in the
I see it somewhat in the same light as a name floating above a person's head.
I don't presume to know a name in most cases. Sometimes I can play it that "you were pointed out to me" but I prefer not to, especially if its someone approaching me. As for guildtags, when in doubt I will send an OOC tell "do you carry any overtly recognizable marks of your House" just to clarify, and especially with heavier RP guilds and guilds I'm unfamiliar with. I accept as a soldier class in a merc outfit that I will be recognized by some insignia but rogue, mage and priest classes have a lot more room for ambiguity IMO.
Wulfran
Guardian of Invicta
"To defend, this is the Pact, and when life scorned and damage done, to avenge: this is the Pact" ~ Blue Oyster Cult
I see it as unknown, unless
I see it as unknown, unless they mention it. Sometimes I'll ask about a "rumor" that they might be involved with X guild, but thats about it.
IC - nobody knows that Azroth is a part of the secret group known as The Dark Brotherhood. Though it's possible that some might suspect it, he has told nobody and does not plan to.. unless it comes out somehow in an IC confrontation.
You knoooooooow.... if
You knoooooooow.... if that's a concern, we could always cut out his tounge :P
WHAT?!
WHAT?!
Don't worry, it'd not be
Don't worry, it'd not be smart for them... or anyone.. to try! :)
No, I mean, "WHAT? Azroth's
No, I mean, "WHAT? Azroth's already aligned?" What. :P
That's a secret...
That's a secret... *grins* It's not known.
You can tell me! D: I won't
You can tell me! D: I won't let Alheim or any characters know!
absolutely not!
absolutely not!
Phoo. Meanies. ;P But by
Phoo. Meanies. ;P But by Azmith's reaction I guess he is DB....what a shame...
are you kidding? Shame?
are you kidding? Shame? This is going to open up so many doors for all guilds on this server :) And no, he's not DB.... and if you keep saying he is, you might have an accident.
Accident? Bring it on!
Accident? Bring it on! >:D
But yeah, I love both Azroth and Azmith.....wait are those two characters related somehow? lol